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saberman
12-09-09, 09:34
I love the show and have listened to each podcast religiously. The dynamic between all three of you is great and makes for great listening.

I couldn’t believe hearing Scott say at the end of the last podcase there are some people who dislike the show. Each to their own I guess.

OK my question is: Do Socal and Scott get the humor in UK Mike’s British hour? I think it is very British.

Of course, being British, I expect UK Mike to say the British houor is a serious exploration of retro gaming from a British point of view. As such it doen’t contain humour :o).

I’m a quater Welsh myself I’ll have to see if I can find my grandfather’s velcor gloves for a trip to the vallies.

Chris
12-09-09, 01:26
I love the show and have listened to each podcast religiously. The dynamic between all three of you is great and makes for great listening.

I couldn’t believe hearing Scott say at the end of the last podcase there are some people who dislike the show. Each to their own I guess.

OK my question is: Do Socal and Scott get the humor in UK Mike’s British hour? I think it is very British.

Of course, being British, I expect UK Mike to say the British houor is a serious exploration of retro gaming from a British point of view. As such it doen’t contain humour :o).

I’m a quater Welsh myself I’ll have to see if I can find my grandfather’s velcor gloves for a trip to the vallies.

I love British humor and UK Mike definitely brings the British humor full force. I can almost tell that it seems to set the tone for the show actually, like how the intro segments are the guys talking about how they are going to do an intro segment. I wouldn't be surprised to find that UK Mike had come up with that.

SubaruBrat
12-09-09, 02:10
Well, our point was that you can't please everyone and whenever you do something there are fans and critics. The difference between a fan and a critic is that fans have ideas to make the show better, or add to the show as it is. Critics know the they can do a much better show (just ask them) and they want you to retool the show around their ideal of what a show should be. For example length. A fan would say could it be shorter, no, ok, I see you have allot of content so I will just listen over the month. Fans we love, and even if their request just doesn't fit we might well, and probably will get them in on the show another way. For example you might not like jukes, so sorry but we won't cancel our 3 part editorial, but they submit a top 10 we jump right on and everyone loves it. As for UK's segment as soon as I heard it I knew it would be a mainstay.

Let me pull back a curtain here on the show about UKMike. I wanted to put together a retro show based on teamwork and not one guy's my way or the highway. Something lasting and something flexible. I knew UK from other forums and there was no question in my mind that he would blow this thing out of the water. As for the intros, they tend to be spontaneous that we all sort of agree on and come up with but they guy that gets them tooled up into ready to use clips, UKMike.

Mmmbacon
12-09-09, 05:01
I agree with Chris and Saberman about UKMike, while not British and I'm sure I'm missing some of the depth of his humor, it wouldn't work if the dynamic between the 3 hosts wasn't so strong. Thats something that can't be faked, listeners can sniff out fake comradery a mile a way. I think this is why the show works so well....

saberman
12-09-09, 06:41
Well, our point was that you can't please everyone and whenever you do something there are fans and critics. The difference between a fan and a critic is that fans have ideas to make the show better, or add to the show as it is. Critics know the they can do a much better show (just ask them) and they want you to retool the show around their ideal of what a show should be. For example length. A fan would say could it be shorter, no, ok, I see you have allot of content so I will just listen over the month. Fans we love, and even if their request just doesn't fit we might well, and probably will get them in on the show another way. For example you might not like jukes, so sorry but we won't cancel our 3 part editorial, but they submit a top 10 we jump right on and everyone loves it. As for UK's segment as soon as I heard it I knew it would be a mainstay.

Let me pull back a curtain here on the show about UKMike. I wanted to put together a retro show based on teamwork and not one guy's my way or the highway. Something lasting and something flexible. I knew UK from other forums and there was no question in my mind that he would blow this thing out of the water. As for the intros, they tend to be spontaneous that we all sort of agree on and come up with but they guy that gets them tooled up into ready to use clips, UKMike.


I’m definitely a fan although it is hard to think of anything that would make the show better at the moment. I’d like some ZX spectrum coverage but UKMike’s coverage of the C5 was enough to keep me going for several months.

I like that the show isn’t just about the things I know about. The discussion on Jukes and Pinball have really got me interested in both of those. I’d never even thought of it before but I think I’d buy a Jukebox before a pinball or video game machine. I have to confess to owning none of those but having a desire to make my own MAME machine one day.

I also realise that it takes a lot of hard work to put these shows together. I try not to be overly critical of anything I’m getting for free. I also don’t complain if say a show is late. I can’t believe there are idiots that do that kind of thing

saberman
12-09-09, 06:46
I agree with Chris and Saberman about UKMike, while not British and I'm sure I'm missing some of the depth of his humor, it wouldn't work if the dynamic between the 3 hosts wasn't so strong. Thats something that can't be faked, listeners can sniff out fake comradery a mile a way. I think this is why the show works so well....

I agree the dynamic really makes the show. The top 10s are great I’ll have to suggest some in the suggestions thread.

miner2049er
13-09-09, 01:46
The dynamic between all three of you is great and makes for great listening.

I love our recording sessions, we always have a blast. The off the air stuff is great too.


OK my question is: Do Socal and Scott get the humor in UK Mike’s British hour? I think it is very British.

LOL, I think even British people miss some of it.


....like how the intro segments are the guys talking about how they are going to do an intro segment. I wouldn't be surprised to find that UK Mike had come up with that.

I don't recall who that was actually, it started with the Top Ten intro back in January. SoCal couldn't have done it better had it been scripted.


I’m definitely a fan although it is hard to think of anything that would make the show better at the moment. I’d like some ZX spectrum coverage but UKMike’s coverage of the C5 was enough to keep me going for several months.

Well, the Spectrum will get the treatment at some point, as will other UK specific equipment, but this month it gets mentioned again in my review so look out for that.


I like that the show isn’t just about the things I know about.

We're all learning here, we have different areas of knowledge that overlaps well which is why the team aspect works well, and the listeners chip in too with stuff we don't know or get wrong.


I also realise that it takes a lot of hard work to put these shows together. I try not to be overly critical of anything I’m getting for free. I also don’t complain if say a show is late. I can’t believe there are idiots that do that kind of thing

Yeah, the late thing isn't too much of an issue with a team effort. I took almost 3 weeks off last month but the show still got done. I wasn't in the News segment, so what? Two other guys were and they brought you the goods.


I’m a quarter Welsh myself

Well look on the bright side, that means three quarters of you isn't.

Jerky
20-09-09, 07:30
I love the British Hour. I wish that it was actually an hour, but then it takes away the sarcasm of its title. Plus I'd imagine that it would be too hard to pull off month after month.

The tour of the UK is terrific. Are there anymore places to go in the UK? I'm American and I don't care to learn about other countries in the world. ;)

miner2049er
20-09-09, 08:02
The tour of the UK is terrific. Are there anymore places to go in the UK? I'm American and I don't care to learn about other countries in the world. ;)

Oh there sure are. We'll be home for Christmas before travelling around some of the different parts of England.

andyuk
20-09-09, 08:25
Well, the Spectrum will get the treatment at some point, as will other UK specific equipment, but this month it gets mentioned again in my review so look out for that.

Damn you!! I know what kind of 'treatment' you'd like to give to our beloved Sinclair machine :) The other guys best be tethering you for that particular segment. heh

You know guys. I'm liking the show more and more every month. The Balance between US and UK markets is obvious, and welcome . The topics varied and thats a good thing, and as mentioned here before, the obvious friend/relationships between the hosts allows for that 'bounce' effect. You know what, keep it up guys!!! ( ooerr.. )

miner2049er
20-09-09, 08:29
Speaking of remote, long lost and forgotten outreaches of the UK, here's AndyUK.

How do fella?

AndyUK is a big Spectrum fan but please don't hold that against him, he's OK really.

I wonder if AndyUK's location will get a visit from The British Hour team.:SONRUN:

Computarman
23-09-09, 01:11
I enjoy British humor. I remember reading and enjoying UK Amiga and C64 mags with their off the wall humor.

saberman
25-09-09, 04:24
Oh there sure are. We'll be home for Christmas before travelling around some of the different parts of England.

Going to the north east in the winter would be good. There’d be loads of lads and lasses walking around with almost nothing on in the sleet to ask about gaming. They do talk a bit funny like up there though.

saberman
25-09-09, 04:27
Damn you!! I know what kind of 'treatment' you'd like to give to our beloved Sinclair machine :) The other guys best be tethering you for that particular segment. heh

You know guys. I'm liking the show more and more every month. The Balance between US and UK markets is obvious, and welcome . The topics varied and thats a good thing, and as mentioned here before, the obvious friend/relationships between the hosts allows for that 'bounce' effect. You know what, keep it up guys!!! ( ooerr.. )

I agree I like it better every month too. I’ve listened to this months show twice already. There’s so much you miss bits the first time through.

saberman
25-09-09, 04:45
I love the British Hour. I wish that it was actually an hour, but then it takes away the sarcasm of its title. Plus I'd imagine that it would be too hard to pull off month after month.


I’ve always assumed it is an hour and it just appears shorter as it is so good. Time flies when you’re having fun after all :).



The tour of the UK is terrific. Are there anymore places to go in the UK? I'm American and I don't care to learn about other countries in the world. ;)

I didn’t realize American’s knew there were other countries in the world ;). Isn’t Britain a state out east somewhere? Of course over here; “criminals are citizens too and deserve protection from violent home owners’” :-|.

miner2049er
25-09-09, 05:01
I didn’t realize American’s knew there were other countries in the world ;). Isn’t Britain a state out east somewhere?

It is in the Hudson River I believe.

Jerky
25-09-09, 08:00
I’ve always assumed it is an hour and it just appears shorter as it is so good. Time flies when you’re having fun after all :).



I didn’t realize American’s knew there were other countries in the world ;). Isn’t Britain a state out east somewhere? Of course over here; “criminals are citizens too and deserve protection from violent home owners’” :-|.

What language do they speak in England? :)

miner2049er
25-09-09, 08:21
What language do they speak in England? :)

American but without the dumb accent. ;)

eldphm
08-10-09, 07:46
When I hear the outro for the British hour, there is a movie playing in my head with silhouettes of UKMike, SoCalMike and Subarubrat fighing over the top 10.
Did this happen to anybody else?

miner2049er
08-10-09, 11:54
The outtro theme is actually the end theme to the UK TV show Bottom.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEhx3ChdPYw

The characters in that fight most of the time.

Maybe that's what gave you the idea.

saberman
08-10-09, 03:08
The outtro theme is actually the end theme to the UK TV show Bottom.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEhx3ChdPYw

The characters in that fight most of the time.

Maybe that's what gave you the idea.

Forget your classics such as ‘Fools and horses’, ‘Blackadder’ and ‘Faulty Towers’, ‘Bottom’ sums up British humor at its best :D.

My favorite scene is from the episode where they are stealing gas for the man next door:

Gasman: How come it is so warm if you don’t use any gas?
Richie: We make love.
Gasman: Oh.
Richie: Not with each other obviously. We make love on our own.

SubaruBrat
08-10-09, 03:55
In American media I see a dual treatment of the UK. When talking in terms of promoting socialism or socialist goals they act as if no wrong can be done and when dealing with other issues they are almost dismissive of "silly old England". If you were to watch something like Michael Moore's movies you would get the idea that the UK and EU are this magical land where nobody ever gets sick or dies. Of course if the media is following orders to whoop up an invasion of Iran and UK/EU objections come up then it would be what does silly old England know anyway.

What I see out of the UK media is a nearly endless undertone of cheap shots at America, mostly undeserved. About the only show I watch on TV is Top Gear, a British car show. As much as I like the show it seems that they can't go more than two shows without some cheap shot remark.

I don't get it. I have been all over Europe, lived in Germany, my wife is Italian and I have always seen EU and UK as extended family.

saberman
08-10-09, 05:59
In American media I see a dual treatment of the UK. When talking in terms of promoting socialism or socialist goals they act as if no wrong can be done and when dealing with other issues they are almost dismissive of "silly old England". If you were to watch something like Michael Moore's movies you would get the idea that the UK and EU are this magical land where nobody ever gets sick or dies. Of course if the media is following orders to whoop up an invasion of Iran and UK/EU objections come up then it would be what does silly old England know anyway.

What I see out of the UK media is a nearly endless undertone of cheap shots at America, mostly undeserved. About the only show I watch on TV is Top Gear, a British car show. As much as I like the show it seems that they can't go more than two shows without some cheap shot remark.

I don't get it. I have been all over Europe, lived in Germany, my wife is Italian and I have always seen EU and UK as extended family.

Wow, where to start on that one.

A generalist view: Fundamentally much of the British media is very tongue in cheek. It doesn’t take itself seriously. That is particularly true of Top Gear. The presenters constantly take shots at each other for example. The impression of the US over here is that it takes itself far too seriously. Combine that with the ‘we’ll take a pop at anything’ attitude of shows like Top Gear and it is like a red rag to a bull. Just look at their attitude to caravans. The media will always twist things to its own ends. We aren’t a socialist paradise or ‘silly England’.

My view: Americans are great. I’m sure some do take themselves far too seriously but so do many British people. I have many American friends and colleagues and like them as much as my British friends. Some certainly take the Mickey out of me as much as I do out of them. In fact I have far more American friends than I do German or French.

On having an Italian wife: You are just bragging :).

SubaruBrat
08-10-09, 06:07
Funny thing is she is from N. Italy (Tuscany) and most people think she is Swiss or something.

I am a big fan or cringe humor and throwing each other under the bus, one of the main attractions to the show other than being a car guy.

andyuk
08-10-09, 06:31
In American media I see a dual treatment of the UK. When talking in terms of promoting socialism or socialist goals they act as if no wrong can be done and when dealing with other issues they are almost dismissive of "silly old England". If you were to watch something like Michael Moore's movies you would get the idea that the UK and EU are this magical land where nobody ever gets sick or dies. Of course if the media is following orders to whoop up an invasion of Iran and UK/EU objections come up then it would be what does silly old England know anyway.

What I see out of the UK media is a nearly endless undertone of cheap shots at America, mostly undeserved. About the only show I watch on TV is Top Gear, a British car show. As much as I like the show it seems that they can't go more than two shows without some cheap shot remark.

I don't get it. I have been all over Europe, lived in Germany, my wife is Italian and I have always seen EU and UK as extended family.

The 'cheap' shots are based on what you've already mentioned, what the media shows us, and to be honest what we see is sometimes too crazy to believe. heh. Much like the rest of the world, most people ( and I'm talking general populus here ) only leave 'their' country to go on holiday and get information about the rest of the world from the sources you mentioned. Not much of a background to base an opinion on, but sadly it's all they have.

I don't really think they are cheap shots, but usually an item that people can relate too, and that's part of the jibe I suppose, a sort of group joke. Though the guys on top gear actually know what they are talking about so, Hmm maybe it's a little from section A and a little from B on that one ;) and besides top gear over the years is more of a social/big boys toy show now than just a car show ( something to chat to your workmates about on a Monday morning ).

Over here we're led to believe that the US is not led by government but by the businessmen who contribute to get the guys elected, state benefits are non existent, medicare doesn't exist for the 'general' man, gun crime is rampant, city crime is rife, every criminal is black, ( oh sorry, African American ) and everyone in the southern states is called 'bob' and takes his daily kill back home to his cousin and their 4 buck toothed children. The pusuit of oil is really why the war still goes on, Bush was a bumbling puppet of his fathers friends, American cars are big, bulky and underpowered for that V6 that's up front, Gas is $1 a gallon, Cowboys killed first shot, Washington's on 'this' side, Vegas is a shining beacon of lights and customer service, everyone eats 'Supersize' the list goes on and on...

That's the media version of course, but.. I imagine you have similar 'facts' about the Uk and I should imagine the EU also.

My Wife's Canadian and I know the feeling is very much the same for most Canadians..... Then there's Quebec.. < nudge nudge heh > But I should imagine America shares their own little set of jibes about Canada too eh?

It's a world wide thing mate, and you know what, the problem in this damn politically correct world where people still continue to behave as they always did despite the best efforts of the PC Police, is that everything is taken far too seriously because they CAN take it seriously and get something out of it.. If the jibe has intent then yes, it's a bad thing, but most of these jibes and digs are meant to be taken as they are given.. with a pinch of salt and a chuckle.. heh

saberman
08-10-09, 08:21
... my wife is Italian and I have always seen EU and UK as extended family.



My Wife's Canadian and I know the feeling is very much the same for most Canadians.....

My wife is Scouse and even worse I've picked up her accent as we've lived together so long :(. I love her to bits though.

miner2049er
08-10-09, 08:59
My wife is Scouse

Oh you poor thing. Surely there must be helplines you can call.

saberman
08-10-09, 09:10
Oh you poor thing. Surely there must be helplines you can call.

Yes 6031769 - will anyone else get the obscure retro gaming reference I wonder?

SubaruBrat
08-10-09, 09:20
Manic Miner cheat code!

Flare
08-10-09, 09:36
My wife's Mexican... and I'm Mexican...

Not sure what that means... :confused:

miner2049er
08-10-09, 10:04
My wife's Mexican... and I'm Mexican...

Not sure what that means... :confused:

Neither of you can be trusted.

miner2049er
08-10-09, 10:06
Yes 6031769 - will anyone else get the obscure retro gaming reference I wonder?


Manic Miner cheat code!

Ding ding ding!

eldphm
08-10-09, 10:06
The outtro theme is actually the end theme to the UK TV show Bottom.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEhx3ChdPYw
The characters in that fight most of the time.
Maybe that's what gave you the idea.

That is exactly the case. I'm from Sweden and British TV shows is the second most common type of programming here (American TV being the most common).
Especially the national channels.
(was that the old Thames Television logo music you used before?)
I think most swedes "get" the british humor since we have been growing up with it.

I must respectfully disagree with Subarubrat about the British humor being mainly about taking pot shots at the US, I think they often play on outrageous behaviour, "stiff upper-lip" characters and general crazy intellectual in-jokes.

miner2049er
08-10-09, 10:17
was that the old Thames Television logo music you used before?

Yes it is. It was a toss up between that and the ATV one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogNHLmZc2Xg

SubaruBrat
08-10-09, 10:30
I certainly did not say it was MAINLY about that, certainly it is not and I do get British humor. Stuff like The Office and old Monty Python is brilliantly funny. In fact David Brent has to be the most brutally funny character ever. There is tons of humor about America that I laugh at and we are certainly fair game.

What I said was there is a recurrent theme of it. I don't obsess over it enough to keep a running log but every few shows of top gear I hear one as an example and those certain remarks come off as spiteful and not well meant.

andyuk
08-10-09, 11:15
I certainly did not say it was MAINLY about that, certainly it is not and I do get British humor. Stuff like The Office and old Monty Python is brilliantly funny. In fact David Brent has to be the most brutally funny character ever. There is tons of humor about America that I laugh at and we are certainly fair game.

What I said was there is a recurrent theme of it. I don't obsess over it enough to keep a running log but every few shows of top gear I hear one as an example and those certain remarks come off as spiteful and not well meant.

Well Top Gear did an entire show In America a while back, and it was sheer quality. Worth a watch.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1304162912186494266#

The premise, buy a car for 1000$ and drive it from Miami to New Orleans.

SubaruBrat
08-10-09, 11:38
I saw it and loved most of it, the part where it was a bit much was the set up part where the lady tells them it was a redneck town and she was going to go get the boys etc... They really didn't have to pull that, the show was legitimately funny without that fake part added.

eldphm
09-10-09, 12:06
I certainly did not say it was MAINLY about that, certainly it is not and I do get British humor. Stuff like The Office and old Monty Python is brilliantly funny. In fact David Brent has to be the most brutally funny character ever. There is tons of humor about America that I laugh at and we are certainly fair game.

What I said was there is a recurrent theme of it. I don't obsess over it enough to keep a running log but every few shows of top gear I hear one as an example and those certain remarks come off as spiteful and not well meant.

I hear you, such remarks can be hurtful. But sometimes it is just easy to get a few laughs by making jokes about a foreign country, may it be the United States or North Korea, right Scott ?

My experience is that this issue it is a bit extra sensitive for a guy who has served his country as yourself. Nothing wrong with that.

Well, feel like it is a way too touchy subject to start my career as a poster on this forum, but it seemed like it is something that you wanted off your chest.

I guess we swedes got a too sweet deal here, most jokes about us told by people from other countries involves sexy blondes, and that generally doesn't sting very much.

SubaruBrat
09-10-09, 02:01
No my brother don't you worry at all. Sexy bonds are your #2 reference here. #1 is incoherent chefs.

But I think we can all agree N. Korea is a non party town.

And trust me nothing you said is a prompt for angst from me or any co host, we are glad to hear from someone with a bit of ball and brains, you are most welcome here!

saberman
09-10-09, 07:47
My wife's Mexican... and I'm Mexican...

Not sure what that means... :confused:

Your kids will be (or are) Mexican

saberman
09-10-09, 08:07
I saw it and loved most of it, the part where it was a bit much was the set up part where the lady tells them it was a redneck town and she was going to go get the boys etc... They really didn't have to pull that, the show was legitimately funny without that fake part added.

I agree. Not only was it an over the top insult to Americans it was an insult to the intelligence of everyone watching.

saberman
09-10-09, 08:45
No my brother don't you worry at all. Sexy bonds are your #2 reference here. #1 is incoherent chefs.


How can you put sexy blonds at number 2 :)?



But I think we can all agree N. Korea is a non party town.


It got some good treatment in Team America World Police :). I was going to post the UTube link to 'I'm so Ronley' but the audio has been disabled :(.

eldphm
09-10-09, 09:29
No my brother don't you worry at all. Sexy bonds are your #2 reference here. #1 is incoherent chefs.

But I think we can all agree N. Korea is a non party town.

And trust me nothing you said is a prompt for angst from me or any co host, we are glad to hear from someone with a bit of ball and brains, you are most welcome here!

Yes, Jim Henson has a special place in our hearts.

Regarding N. Korea, I can't agree more, seems that all the partying is done by one guy.

Thank you for the kudos, I have been "lurking" far too long and hope to be able to contribute something back.

miner2049er
09-10-09, 10:05
Thank you for the kudos, I have been "lurking" far too long and hope to be able to contribute something back.

Err, you did, and we thank you for it (http://www.bobloz.com/bob/UserFiles/image/images/SwedishFans-787783.jpg).